Heather Wenzel: With Trump we may unfortunately get what we deserve

Now I understand G. Your biases are so strong, they don't allow you to read printed words accurately, or to open your mind to facts, which you don't have access to if you're watching Fox News. To wit:

I NEVER said the Democrats had lied about the border being secure. You can go back and read what I really said, I'm not going to bother repeating it.

You, like many MAGA lunatics I've talked to, seem to think you can set the parameters for discussion. You cannot. In a previous response you claimed you could rebut all my facts, but you cannot, and that's why you won't . That's why in your last response you said you wouldn't try. You know you're lying, you know the facts I've put down are true, and you know you're trapped in your lies, so, like Trump, you continually try to change the subject to avoid admitting you're lying. Like Trump, you will continue to be skewered by the facts.

You doubled down on your lie that food prices are up. The facts do not bear that out, food prices are down double digits from their high points. You could look it up...nah, that doesn't fit your narrative, so you won't do it.

Trump had both houses of Congress and never put forward any rational policy that could hope to pass, even Republicans stated publicly his ideas weren't going to fly with them. The Democrats may have used the filibuster if it came to it, but they didn't need to, as Trump never came forward with any coherent policies, and the Republicans never put forward any reasonable bills to fix the immigration system. To act like it's the Democrats fault that Trump couldn't fix the immigration system is disingenuous at best, as he never really tried.

What DID Trump do about immigration? "By 2021, Donald Trump will have reduced legal immigration by 49% since becoming president- without any change in U.S. immigration law, according to a National Foundation for American Policy analysis. An April presidential proclamation blocked the entry of legal immigrants to the United States in almost all categories." (Forbes Magazine) This led, of course, to more people trying to get in illegally, and is Trump's biggest impact on immigration.

Mitch McConnell, though a vile human, isn't as stupid as Trump, he knows Republicans are the minority party. If they got rid of the filibuster, the future would hold many more losses for them than wins. He knows the best thing in the world for them is to make it as hard to change things as possible, so they can cling to the status quo for as long as possible. Mitch doesn't do "the right thing", Mitch does what benefits the old guard status quo.

Of course Democrats in Congress did everything they could to stop Trump from wasting billions on a useless wall. You can find the video clip of Trump at the border touting his impregnable, beautiful wall...then watch a guy working on it show exactly how immigrants would climb right over it WHILE Trump is talking about how no one will be able to get over it. Check it out.

Your piece about crime shows how your bias blinds you to facts. The most commonly used, acknowledged leading report for crime statistics clearly shows crime is down, and is readily available on Google, but no, your bias is so strong that even after admitting you don't know anything about it, you try to put forward a half-baked theory that fits your narrative rather than taking two minutes to look it up and realize it's true. You're not only in denial of facts, you're demonstrating that you're willing to believe a conspiracy theory rather than look at the facts, even when presented to you. Not a good look. By the way, the timeframes of the report can't be manipulated, they're annualized.

Speaking of things that don't look good, there's your racism and bigotry on display in your assumption about illegal immigrants driving crime numbers up in the future. Statistics consistently prove illegal immigrants tend to be very law abiding, partially, of course, because they need to stay out of trouble, but also it appears many are motivated by simply being in the U.S. and wanting to do well. The fear-mongering of Trump and other racist bigots is one of the uglier parts of the MAGA cult, and is especially egregious considering Trump's criminal activities.

Hey, I found something we agree on, though I'm not sure if we agree on why. I agree government spending is too high. Do you realize that's not a party thing? Both parties are guilty of it. Why? Because it's political suicide to do the tough things that are necessary to move us toward fiscal sanity. There are two reasons for that; one, pork barrel projects that Congressional members fight for to win re-elections, and two, the military industrial complex. The latter is by far the biggest issue, as our military budget is more than the next seven or eight highest spending countries. I'm all for having a strong military, but we're just blowing trillions of dollars on equipment that we don't need, and in many cases will never even work. But while the pork barrel projects are sacred because they get Congressional elections won, the military spending is sacred because it gets presidential elections won, as defense contracts are such a big part of the large donors' holdings, they can't afford to let anyone become president that won't support continuing the spending spree. Of course, if the rich had to pay their fair share of taxes, it would help immensely, but that's another sacred cow that likely won't be sacrificed until it's too late. I'm curious what you would prefer we spend less on.

While we agree on government overspending, none of that changes that our economy is in great shape as far as inflation, jobs, falling prices, and the stock market. When Trump was president he wouldn't shut up about things he did nothing to create, riding the coattails of Obama's recovery. He was always talking about the stock market hitting record highs and unemployment being really low, as were his MAGA supporters. Well, now results are even better in both those areas, and Biden has led us through the best pandemic recovery of any affluent country in the world, and still the MAGA crowd continues to try to claim our economy is terrible, one of their many big lies.

Your last paragraph shows what I'm talking about with regard to not having the facts. You say Biden "reversed all Trump's border policies" as soon as he got into office, but as usual you offer no proof. The reason you offer no proof is because it's not true. According to the Pew Research Center, in his first year in office the Biden Administration "...acted on a number of fronts to reverse Trump-era restrictions on immigration to the United States. The steps include plans to boost refugee admissions, preserving deportation relief for unauthorized immigrants who came to the U.S. as children and not enforcing the 'public charge' rule that denies green cards to immigrants who might use public benefits like Medicaid."

That's in the first year, not exactly an avalanche of changes, and Biden has left a lot of Trump's policies in place. Honestly, I think Biden's real mistake was speaking about immigration in a way that encouraged more people to come. Our system was already broken, and couldn't handle the number of people that were showing up already. Common sense should have told anyone that once Trump and his racist, bigoted, xenophobic rhetoric was gone a lot more people would see the U.S. as a desirable destination.

The thing people don't seem to want to grasp though, is that our immigration system is a series of LAWS. Guess who makes our laws? Right, NOT our president, but Congress. Both parties have been guilty in the past of not working together to fix it, but with the recent bill the Conservative Congressional members hammered out with Democrats, the Republicans can no longer claim to be serious about fixing the problem. What's even worse is that they were talking in glowing terms about the bill until their dear leader nixed it in the hopes he could leverage it into four more years in the White House, proving once again it's all about him, no care for the country or the people. The bill would have provided for thousands more Border Patrol personnel and people to process immigration applications, and maybe most importantly, something like 200+ immigration judges. Why is that the most important part? Because it's the largest bottleneck in our immigration system, with over 3 million cases pending. That number has tripled since 2019.

By the way, do you know that Obama deported far more people than Trump in almost every year of his administration?

Oh. My. God. Are you really that far gone that you buy into every conspiracy theory the lunatic fringe on the right sponsors? Do you really believe there's some Chinese plot to send men to our country? To do what? lol The reason there's been an upsurge in Chinese immigration is their economy is in the tank and ours is doing great. Simple economics. I hope more of them come, as the drain on the Chinese Communist Party might be the thing that finally leads to people overthrowing their tyranny.

Once again, you end with a ridiculous "open border" policy comment. It's like it's a reflex with MAGA cult members, just keep throwing lies out there, and hope people are dumb enough, or ignorant enough, to buy it.

Well, I know the facts, so I'm not buying it, and every time someone lies, whether it's you or someone else, I'll be pointing it out, just like I do in my letters to the editor. There's a simple way to stop that cycle; stop telling lies. If you think you have a claim you can prove, include the facts you think supports the claim, and include your sources.

When I see MAGA cult members interviewed by a skillful interviewer, it always comes down in the end to them admitting they believe Trump over everyone and everything else. I can't imagine how anyone can believe anything he says after the thousands of times he's been proven to be lying, but that's the crux of it. Trump says it, they believe it, they deny facts from credible sources, and they follow their dear leader. Don't follow in their footsteps.

As a Trump supporter and a Republican, I agree that Trump's moral compass is missing. He is a "billionaire playboy" who has been married several times, slept with countless women, and is nobody I'd want my daughter to marry. But his policies were far superior to Joe Biden and the Dems, who are gaslighting America with their claims that the border is secure, crime is down, food prices are lower, we can transition our entire economy to electric and eliminate fossil fuels, etc., etc. On the policy front, it is a clear choice.

One more comment. It seems like when Republicans have personality flaws, the Dems are all over it. Trump is an example, and someone like George Santos is another.

But when Democrat politicians have issues, Dems largely ignore them...for the greater good, of course. This is why Bill Clinton can headline a fundraiser for Biden last week, despite his lying to the country. And Bob Menendez can stay in the Senate because the Dems need his vote.

So when Democrats pull the moral outrage card, it is convenient but not truthful because they do not follow the same principles when their leaders make mistakes.

Donald Trump is amoral. He doesn't care whether his behavior is morally right or wrong.

In other words, you can't lose your moral compass if you never had one.